A Child's Waiting Adoption

2.5
Average: 2.5 (28 votes)
A Child's Waiting Adoption
Phone: 1 330-665-1811
Website: http://www.achildswaiting.com
Address:
710 Salisbury Way
Akron, OH 44321
102 user reviews

Reviews

An article on the closure

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Read the complaints and articles for yourselves and make your own judgement:

http://media.ohio.com/documents/child.pdf.pdf

and the article here:
http://www.ohio.com/news/16807056.html?page=1&c=y

I'm personally thrilled they got shut down. I'm sure they'll just start one up in another state though since there is no national regulation on agencies.

ACW License

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This is the worst agency ever! I am also the recipent of a disruped adoption they caused! My husband and I are out about $6000, with no baby to show for it. I would like anyone considering this agency to know that they currently do not have a license. It has been under review since they are under legal investigation for how they handled an adoption with a minor. They are allowed to practice, but no license. Please read the entire article at

http://www.ohio.com/news/16064992.html

Before you proceed with an adoption, you have to ask yourself, "Do I trust this agency to give me a safe and secure adoption". If you can read all these comments and this article and say yes, I hope you are prepared for heartache.

Best of luck to all of us searching for that special baby needing a forever home.

ACW Special Needs

5

We have really found that this agency is able to find situations quickly and give us all of the information that they have on the situation. They didn't call us all of the time but if you've adopted before and know basically what is happening, it is not really necessary anyway. Additionally, I think their fees are very reasonable and they understand that some situations are very hard to place and therefore keep the fees low.

Unbelieveable!

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My sister had been listed with ACW for 2.5 years and finally got chosen by a birth mom in another state. The baby was born on a Sunday - no ACW people or subsequent agencies showed. The baby was allowed to room with the mom, who was having second thoughts. Again, no ACW on site. The mother refused my sister access at the hospital on Monday but ACW finally got a local agency involved who said it was still a "go". On Tuesday she surrendered the baby after a three hour ordeal and 48 hours of living with her baby. No indication from ACW that there were any second thoughts (although we obviously had figured there were). My sister took the baby home and got the call 24 hours later that the baby had to go back. The local agency was unable to even pick up the baby because - GET THIS - they generally handled foreign adoptions and only were involved because they knew someone at ACW and an Ohio judge mandated that a local agency had to be involved. My sister spent thousands of dollars on attorney's fees, travel costs, etc. for nothing but heartache. ACW was clueless and our entire family is devastated, no one from ACW was there for anybody. The birth mother had no support from ACW, no counseling for at least 24 hours after the birth. How could she be expected to do anything else? Now the birth mother has no support, no preparation and no ability to care for this gorgeous child, who is the resident ping pong ball. ACW should be mortified at how this was handled, I know the rest of us certainly are.

Wonderful Experience

5

A Child's Waiting provided our family with appropriate support and direction along our adoption journey. We are the adoptive parents of two children and appreciate the professionalism and dedication we received during our adoption process.
We have a deep respect for the agency's time and effort in helping us to build our family through adoption. Our experience was exceptional.

Very Pleased

5

We were overall very pleased with ACW. We had a domestic infant open adoption. The fees were reasonable and timed appropriately. I was told the average wait for an infant was 14 months and we were shown MANY times during the wait, which only ended up being 9 months.

The staff was helpful before, after, and during our process. I was especially pleased at the amount of profiles we were presented for, and the fact that we were kept so in the loop during the process. Once we were matched if there were ever questions, we were helped immediately.

No agency is perfect, but if we were to adopt again, we would definitely go with ACW and will refer anyone who asks to them. We're very pleased with our experience.

LOVE THEM

5

As parents of 5 adopted children we only have wonderful things to say. We found their staff to be very educated, professional and caring. They were very supportive with each of our adoptions, helping us find the services we needed when needed. There is nothing we would change and if we decide to adopt agian we will definetly use A Child's Waiting.

ACW HORRIBLE experience

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I only have time for a short post. I have worked with other agencies and this one was the most disappointing. They made promises that they did not deliver. We were in a crisis situation (disruption) and they presented a program they did not have. In the end, "working" with ACW was frustrating, expensive, and damaging to our famiy needs. They were very happy to take our money, but they did not deliver on any of their contractual promises. We considered suing them.

Good service

5

Agency was very helpful. They shared our profile with many potential birthparents before we were selected. We were more difficult to pace with as we already had biological children. We feel fortunate to have had so many opportunities to be considered. The counselors were very helpful duringa very difficult journey. We now have a very open adoption with our daughters birthmothers and feel blessed to have found this program.

Class action suit against ACIW?

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Even though my husband and I are relieved to hear that ACIW is not able to hurt any other adoptive families like ourselves, it is only for 4 years. After that they can go back to breaking the hearts of other families just to make money. We had an adoption disruption that just occurred 3 weeks before this past Christmas and we didn't receive one phone call or letter from ACIW asking how we were coping. It had to have been our worst holiday ever. They made us feel like we were inadequate as adoptive parents.
My question is, now that we know that we weren't the only family out there hurt by ACIW, has anyone made any comments or suggestions into filing a class action lawsuit against ACIW? We are very interested in pursuing this and are going to contact our adoption attorney tomorrow, but I wanted to see if anyone else had already taken steps for this idea?

A Child's Waiting

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So many hearts have been broken by this agency. Yes they're the same agency that the Gravelle family received their caged children from.

But the Stephanie Bennett case is a real gut-wrenching travesty. It wasn't just that she "changed her mind" as one of their few defenders on here insists - they participated in the encouragement of a minor making a major life-altering, damaging decision without calling in her parents . When they realized that she was having a change of heart because she hadn't been properly counseled in the the first place; they told the adopters to take that baby and run and hide.

I do wonder how adopters look themselves in the mirror in circumstances such as these? No one has the right to someone else's child when that child is wanted and no woman really wants to give up her baby - it's an act of desperation because she doesn't have financial and/or emotional support.

Worse yet; I seriously doubt that ACW even understands how morally bankrupt their actions have been and I agree with others here that they will just shut down and reopen somewhere else with a new name. After all, they've learned very well how to trade in blood and tears.

I am a natural mother as well who was coerced out of my own child by an adoption agency of this ilk. In the mid 60's as an 18 year old student who insisted I was going to be find a way to keep my child; I had a social worker from a well known agency who brought me surrender papers to sign while I was still under sedation in the recovery room. She told me it was merely a release to allow the baby and I to leave the hospital. The next day I was told that I had signed away my parental rights and there was nothing I could do! I was 18! I didn't know to question authority and I was too emotionally crippled to fight it because I didn't have the support of my parents who wanted me to finish school.

Stephanie had the support of her family and this agency steamrollered over them because they figured they didn't have the resources to fight for their grandchild. These injustices have been done to young pregnant women will not stop unless more people speak out about their own experiences with the corrupt practices of the lucrative adoption industry.

Too Many Wrong Moves

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I have read the12-page letter that the state sent to ACW and am in agreement way past what is listed in that missive. When an industry/business messes around with human life and families, they need to be very careful and very, very sure that everything they do is ethical. The case of Stephanie Bennett was not handled in an ethical manner and that is one criticism you can take to the bank. They are the ones who advised the people who have that little girl to run and hide and they are the ones who have fought at every turn to return this child to the family in which she belongs and who loves her.

Don't think, for an instant, that "the best interests of the child" were the reasons behind this action, either. One can't afford to have one's paying clients having to return the goods, now, can one? Children who were returned to their natural parents, despite the shows put on for the media, are very well adjusted and happy and little Evelyn will be the same when she is back with her Mom, Grandma and Grandpa.

This is a step in the right direction, as far as I am concerned and I hope that ACW goes down, all the way. Adoption is a racket, a lucrative one for independent agencies and state agencies. DSS will take away children for a dirty kitchen or because daddy lost his job and, eventually, the parents might get their older children back...but not the cute, adoptable toddlers and infants. Nope...they wind up adopted even though there is no inherent problem found in the family from whicn they were taken. No matter what they tell prospective adopters, please know that there are not that many crackwhores and baby dumpers around that you can use that excuse very often to justify taking your little acquisition from the mother who loves him/her.

Lets get these people out of the baby brokering business and others like them before the good old days of maternity breeding farms and forceful coercion return and more hearts are broken. Just because you want a baby, doesn't always mean you should have one.

A CHILD'S WAITING HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN BY THE STATE OF OHIO

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They have been shut down. They violated ICPC laws, failed to get medical treatment for injured children, they encouraged preadoptive parents to hide children where the adoption is being contested. The list goes on. I have a copy of the letter that was sent to them on 3/10/08. They are not allowed renew their license and their license has been revoked.

Just wondering...

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Has any had any success into getting their child back.. let me know?

ACW

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ACW DIDN'T GIVE A RATS BUTT ABOUT NOTHING MONEY GRUBBING THERE IS NOT A WORD IN THE BOOK FOR THOSE 2 SISTERS THEY CLOSED PLACE IN FAIRLAWN NOW AND DID NOT INFORM ANYONE WHERE THERE GIFTS AND MAIL BE SENT TO FOR A ADOPTIVE CHILD ...THEY DONT ANSWER PHONES NOR EMAIL NOR THERE STICKEN FACEBOOK ACCOUNT'S. GUESS WHAT YOU 2 SLIM BALLS WHEN THE WORLD ENDS AND JUDGEMENT DAY BY GOD IS UPON YOU ..MAY YOU ROT IN h****L RATE IS 0

Wrongful

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If you think you got wronged contact the state attorney general and see if they can help

baby brokering business

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Glad they are shut down , From one broken hearted grandma!
My rate is 0 ....12 more years I will Indeed seek to find my grandaughter!

To 3athome

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Have you stopped to think about how they were able to place 1500 children in 8 yrs? Those are astronomical numbers. When we dealt with them they claimed to have placed over 400 babies a yr. Where did they find that many babies when other agencies have long waiting lists for infant adoptions? Jennifer's husband is a Pediatrician with ties to an unnamed County north of Cincinnati. Just something to think about.

ACW - go somewhere else

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6 yrs ago we filed a complaint with the State of OH Attorney General's office about ACW and after a quick visit from the the same inspector who was supposed to be supervising their licensing and wasn't doing her job either, nothing was done. I had to crack a wry smile when I read they FINALLY got caught and hanged for doing the exact same thing they did to us. Those 2 women are the most accomplished liars I've ever met. I don't care what kind of college degrees they can put on the walll, they are dangerous and they played fast and loose with the children, birth parents and adoptive parents while taking their fees. They lied to us about the children's physical, cognitive and emotional problems, and they physically
(and illegally it turned out) dropped off drug and alcohol affected children off into our home that it turned out they didn't have legal custody of. Our attorney had a coronary when he found out we had these children in our house with no paperwork. He said it would be viewed as kidnapping in the courts and we had to return them immediately. How would we ever know anything like that?
It took a yr to turn up some of the truth but it turned out they didn't have a signed custody agreement from the mentally ill, homeless birth mom and had already placed these raging, mentally ill children into 2 homes before ours. They took money from 3 potential adoptive families and I believe, seriously impacted the continuing mental health of the children by disrupting them.

If I could rate them 0 stars I would. They are truly 2 of the most awful examples of humanity I've ever met.

Thankful for agency

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I am fortunate to have personal experience with this agency and take the time to offer support. There have been over 1500 kids placed by this agency in only 8 yrs or so. They have had WAY more successes and happy families than the negative ones. I am glad the agency was able to settle with the State. I work in social service and I am aware of the incompetencies of ODJFS and ACW has not deserved this type of treatment. The agency I am with as well as others I coordinate with ALL make similar mistakes, all clerical or documentation in nature. ALso, it depends on which Licensing specialist the agency has as they determine how the rules are interpreted there is nothing standardaized and the rules change constantly. Any agency is at risk for the same issues. I know from a professioanl perspective that this agency is wonderful, caring and would highly recommend them. The mahority of the lists on this site are those who have never had direct contact with the agency and are difficult to take seriously as they answer only to propoganda. There are many individuals willing to share positive experiences in another forum.

ACIW class action suit?

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Has anyone already started the process of filing a class action suit against ACIW? My husband and I are going to contact our adoption attorney tomorrow to see if she has heard of anything yet. It just seems as if what ODJFS did, just wasn't enough. I know that after speaking to one of their representatives, that it's pretty much all they could have done, but from an adoptive parent's standpoint, it clearly isn't enough.

The verdict is in.

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You can read all of the complaints against them at this webpage.

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/27287854.html

The documents on this agency are here

http://media.ohio.com/documents/ACW+Settlement+Agreement.pdf
http://media.ohio.com/documents/ACW+revocation.pdf

They will be allowed to finish out the 25 adoptions. The owners can not perform adoptions for the next four years for any agency in the state of Ohio. The owners are not allowed to do any of the day to day business with the agency.

sloppy

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I wish I had found this site before I dealt with ACW. My experience with them was terrible. My home study took less than 2 hours-total. I should have been tipped off when the classroom instructor bragged she had been brought in to clean up ACW records so that they wouldn't lose their license.

They attempted to place a child with me who had behavioral problems they had not disclosed. When I called my case worker to discuss my concerns her only advice was "You just need to decide whether or not you want to be a mommy" no advice, no reassurance, no offer to help. I was then told if I did not accept this child, no future children would be presented to me. This was not a disrupted adoption--I had only met the child twice and he had not moved in with me. I had requested a 3-4 year old. ACW said he was 7 "but don't worry he is small." On the first meeting the child told me he was actually 8. He was small--his mother had kept in a closet.

For those happy about the license issue-sorry to report they are still open and operating. Call them-they will take you as a new client. Their web site is active.

Love them

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I worked with A Childs Waiting with my first adoption over two years ago and I am currently working with them again to hopefully adopt a second child. Never had any problems. Yes I had a couple failed adoptions but they were always honest with the risks involved and it was always my choice if I wanted to proceed. We took the chance and knew there was the possibility that we may loose out. We have surrrendered money due to those failed adoptions and it hurt financially and emotionally but we were told ahead of time. I would recommend this agency.

A Child is Waiting Adoption Agency

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I have been in contact with this agency since they opened. They have always been helpful and patient as my life circumstances changed over the last 8 years & the impact this had on my ability to adopt.
My husband & I are older. As we began to explore adoption we quickly found we were too old to adopt an in fant from numerous programs. I always asked for recommendations. I consistently heard GREAT things about A Child is Waiting from international and domestic agencies.
As a resident of the Copley area (where the agency is), I have heard good things about this agency from neighbors/friends who have adopted either with this agency or had contacted this agency.
We plan to adopt through this agency or one other. These are the 2 we have decided to work with & I will report back as we progress in the process.
I certainly expect this agency to completely clear any issues affecting their license. I hope our local newspaper will have THOSE results on the front page, as they did with the allegations mentioned in earlier comments.
If you've ever tried to deal with a newspaper, you can appreciate what a challenge it can be to get you good name back once the paper has reported something negative about you. The bad/negative news is splashed acrosss the front page & later if the outcome is positive, expect to see it buried in a couple paragraph article on page G-45!
Thank you for reading this.

EVEN IF THERE WAS ONLY ONE

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Even if there was only ONE bad adoption THAT IS ONE TOO MANY. These are childrens and mothers LIVES at stake. Children aren't something to be passed around and swept under the carpet at the expense of an agencies reputation. ONCE is enough for me.

Even if Stephanie Bennett

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Even if Stephanie Bennett didn't "do it right" why on earth wouldn't ACW return her daughter to her as soon as they heard she wanted her back? A week or so with adopters vs. a life time of separation is hardly debatable.

The agency needs to be shut down.

Agency Director Information-FYI

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For those of you who aren't aware there is a personal side to this story as well. Just an FYI for those who don't know who you are slandering. The directors of this agency have both recenty adopted children. One Director, Jennifer, adopted a 17 year girl who had been severely abused by birthfamily, neglected, and left in foster care and group homes for years because no one wanted to adopt her. She will be 18 this month and her adoption wasjust finalized 3 weeks ago. THis child, though almost an adult, needed and wanted a family desperatly. JEnnifer was willing to committ to her for a lifetime when no one else would. She also has contact with extended family mebers of her daughter. The other Director, Crissy just adopted an infant this past week. This also was a situation where thier were no families interested in te placement due to medical concernsand risks of significant neurological damage. Additionally, the birthmother wished to have ongoing contaact including visits. Crissy and her husband have also made a committment to the baby and both biological parents who were unable to care for their baby and wanted more for her. BOth of these families hve shown through example unconditional committment to adoption. NOt only through assiting in placing the children most difficult to find homes for but, now also through the adoption of thier own children. I have seen them first hand and I know they built this agency out of a desire to help and do good things for families and children.

Another comment from the lady who called ACW "clueless"

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I understand that disruptions are a natural part of the adoption process. Of course. However, I do NOT understand an agency who has little apparent support in place when a disruption occurs. I am a social service worker and I find it very difficult to believe they can support out of state adoptions because it's impossible to get the appropriate staff there in a timely fashion. Like it or not, any adoption is a crisis situation for one party or the other. If it's "successful" and the adoption goes through, the birth mother is undoubtedly in crisis even though she made a good decision and did what was right for her. She deserves competent, qualified on-site support. If an adoption ends in "disruption" (I hate that term) then the adoptive parents are in crisis and deserve the same. It is impossible to handle a crisis situation over the phone or on the Internet, no matter how well-intentioned you are.

perspective....

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We have adopted 3 children from this program and have been involved with the staff for 6 years. We have personally experienced the high quality service and caring and concern of A Child's Waiting. This agency successfully places more children than any other private agency in Ohio, (more than most publics too, I hear) over half the kids are difficult to place or special needs. Our daughter was medically fragile and another agency refused to assist the birthmother due to liability. ACW helped our birthmother and reduced fees dramatically due to her needs. This agency has placed between 1400 and 1500 children. Certainly there are bound to be unhappy clients as you can't satisfy everyone. Our experience has been a blessed one and we appreciate this agency for all they have done. There is no doubt in my mind in recommending them. At anytime at any agency an adoption may not work out. That is the nature of adoption. If families aren't comfortable with that then maybe adoption is not the best option for them. You are not going to find an agency willing to do more for your family.

good experience

5

all interactions have been great. No concerns.

Overwhelming Support

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Dozens and dozens of families contacted the news reporter today to offer overwhelming support to the agency. FAR more positive stories are available than negative. You know what they say..."a few bad apples". THe reporter will even tell you the same if you call. He has had a HUGE response of angry families whohave been helped by the agency. If you took a minute to look atthe reality...you would understand this is a travesty. THe "anti-adoption" people who are on here to slander...need education and more than likely.. mental health services. Get over yourself!

acw

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I have been an employee for 4 years at ACW. I've seen MORE happy and satisfied clients than not. We CARE immensely about birthmother's that CALL US, we are not running around soliciting birth mothers. Some people just expect 24 hour hand holding and that is not always possible. I have witnessed many joyous occasions of families being united with their adoptive child. I've eaten more cookies from happy clients than I care to remember, but my waistline does!!

ADOPTERS ARE NOT SAINTS HOLY COW!

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Why do sooo many of you have the notion that adopters are automatic saints? I don't care if the directors of this agency adopted "hard to place" children!! This doesn't qualify them (or anyone else) for immediate canonization! It behooves me that this stigma still prevails! Give me a break! A child has but ONE mom. One original, natural, MOTHER. Period. Paperwork doesn't remove the mother -- not any more than the divorce papers would in a divorce court! Get real!

The directors of the agency appear to have used poor judgement! They hired cruddy workers who didn't follow laws or protocol. They overlooked their own errors, and literally STOLE baby Evelyn from her mother and grandparents!!

Tell me how many saints are you aware of who have engaged in criminal and morally corrupt activities? Exactly. So kiss my rosy red ass with the sainthood shit!

ADOPTION IS NOT CHRISTIAN

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Oh my God.......what a B*TCH you are-oh my God!!! How DARE you say you are some child's natural mother when you are infertile! You are psychotic! The baby you adopted should, never, ever, ever be made to feel you are her natural mother because you can NOT handle reality! You need help lady, BIGTIME-you infertiles are SO mentally unstable, and YOU are the ones with anger issues, and you are bitter, vengeful, vindictive immature brats who seriously, seriously need to GROW UP and accept your infertility and get mental health help for your dangerous jelously problems. None of you need a baby, you need psychiatric help to accept reality. I feel SOO sorry for the poor child you adopted because you are screwed up as my Adoptive "mother" . Ugh.

Oh i see... you uimply you have had your own kids-well what I said above still goes for infertiles, but you know what, screw you still lady, because A, alot of kids are taken from their real parents who don't even abuse them, like the mother whoo had her kids taken because they had normal sunburn, Social workers, are corrupt, evil, bags of sh*t who are doing the devil's work, destroying people's lives, and secondly even if a child is abused, you are still NOT their natural mother you IDIOT, and they need to stay in REALITY and deal with what went on with their REAL PARENTS and when you adoptive parents let your warped egos get involved you RUIN everything and all possiblity of emotional health for the adoptee. I am so sick of the ivory tower you want to stand on-there have been more abused adoptees then adoptees not abused. So you get YOUR facts straight oh holier than thou nutcase.

ADOPTION ISN'T CHRISTIAN

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"You really do have anger issues. Anyone reading these posts can see it. And you are a BP.. Birth mother, Biological mother, either term will do. Call yourself a natural mother or real mother but that is what all moms are, even us adoptive mothers. I'm my child's natural mother, real mother, but not her birth mother. Why does the term bother you so much? There are many adoptive parents that have adopted for what I consider all the "right" reasons. We have biological kids and we really couldn't afford to adopt a child but felt very led by God to make a difference in the life of a child that no one wanted. We have made numerous sacrifices to adopt that have turned out not to be sacrifices at all because we have been so blessed by all our children. Quit bunching everyone into groups because you really don't know what you are talking about. Thank God for all the parents that want to adopt. Thank God there are so many of us that want the kids that no one else wants. And lastly, unless you were in the room with miss Stephanie and the counselor, you really have no idea what happened. Evelyn Bennett is with her real family and to do anything to disrupt this little girl's life would be criminal. That's why we have laws. Don't like the laws? Shut up and try to change them."

Oh my God.......what a B*TCH you are-oh my God!!! How DARE you say you are some child's natural mother when you are infertile! You are psychotic! The baby you adopted should, never, ever, ever be made to feel you are her natural mother because you can NOT handle reality! You need help lady, BIGTIME-you infertiles are SO mentally unstable, and YOU are the ones with anger issues, and you are bitter, vengeful, vindictive immature brats who seriously, seriously need to GROW UP and accept your infertility and get mental health help for your dangerous jelously problems. None of you need a baby, you need psychiatric help to accept reality. I feel SOO sorry for the poor child you adopted because you are screwed up as my Adoptive "mother" . Ugh.

WOW

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Who cares who is from the agency and how many complaint writers there are. People, get a grip. This is America. If you want to use ACW to adopt a child or place one for adoption, then do so. If you don't want to use them, then find another agency. If the agency is in viloation of the law they will be cited accordingly or shut down. If you don't like the laws, quit complaining here and write to your senator and/or congress person. Everyone thinks they know the "entire story" but trust me, they don't.

The entire industry is s tough one. Adoptions are a business involving high expenses and high emotions. You need to set both issues aside if you want to adopt. Quit wasting your time online posting trash about the agency. Don't feel the need to "warn" others because it is ultimately each parties responsibility to complete their due diligence when adopting and placing children for adoption. Ignorance to the law is not a valid defense for anything, nor is stupidity.

Why not use all this time to find an agency you do wish to use. If you have a complaint, then file it with the state, BBB or attorney general. Think of all the good you could be doing for prospectice children and many other adopton-related causes. Use your time and energy to get involved in some good fundraising for families that want to adopt but can't afford to.

And no I am not an employee or friend of this agency. I have used this agency as well as other agencies to adopt. No one agency or employee or court for that matter (including attorneys) is perfect either. That is why we have laws. We have had heartbreaks all the way around. There are always delays, there are always lost documents, there are allways issues with the state and local courts, there is always an overworked, underpaid agency employee, both private and public, there is always a screw-up somewhere at every stage of the process. Go ahead. Go overseas and try to adopt. See what countries and agencies not governed by our U.S. Laws do to this entire process. You would be sickened to see what goes on in other countries. You would be sickened to see the bribery, theft, abuse and on and on involving and surrounding adoptions and the kids involved.

It's all heartbreaking. Adoption, the foster care system, all of it. It's all horrid but it's the best in the world and it's the best we have. Don't like it? Get involved. Lobby to change laws, raise money, start an agency, do something but please do something constructive. Complaiining, mud-slinging and accusations do absolutely nothing except make one look foolish.

if you believe this your an.....

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If you believe that a licensed counselor regulated by the Counselor and Social Board would actually encourage anyone...let alone a minor to run away.... you are no better than the "Jerry Springer" family who started the ridiculous rumor in the first place. You have to admire the fact the the counselor has maintained the client's confidentiality throughtout this process and not disclosed the turth despite outrageous claims.