I am a mother who had her child stolen by adoption. I say stolen because 2 days after I was coerced by my parents to sign relinquishment papers, the court (and Kirsh and Kirsh) wanted me to give my final consent. I sobbed hysterically and said NO, that I wanted my baby back, why did they have to take MY baby, etc. Steve Kirsh quickly told me that I couldn't do anything and that I wouldn't win because no birthmother has EVER gotten her baby back. The adoptive parents took her anyway, even though they knew this and had only known about my baby for 2 weeks; I for 9 months. I don't know how Steve Kirsh and these adoptive parents can lay their heads down to sleep at night--what he and they did was absolutely CRIMINAL! This firm also advised me not to look up anything online about adoption before I surrendered my baby because it's all "propaganda." How very sorry I am that I listened to them--I bought into the lies that I was doing the right thing for my baby so that Kirsh and Kirsh could earn $35-40,000 for her adoption. The adoptive parents get my beautiful and happy baby and the Kirshes get a fat paycheck and I get to be sobbing on my bathroom floor, contemplating suicide because the pain they have inflicted on me is UNBEARABLE! Oh yes, I almost forgot something. They suggest to their clients (adoptive parents) that they stop sending updates (photos/letters) after 5 years of age because they feel that the mothers and fathers of the children should "move on." As if any parent should or could EVER move on from their own child.
We’ve adopted two children via Kirsh & Kirsh and were astonished by DeeDee’s post. We experienced the whole adoption process as very professional but most importantly very caring. Not only for us but also for the birthmothers. The birthmother of our boy even rated K&K as excellent when asked how she was treated. We also could not relate to the story of pressing the birthmother. We ourselves experienced some birthmothers that decided to keep their children after birth. We talked with most of them after their decision and never heard a story of pressure to give their baby’s away.
We of course were very disappointed but also very glad that the story of K&K we heard as a loving, sensitive and caring agency K&K were true. Although the story of DeeDee is very heartbreaking we cannot relate it with our own experience.
We wish DeeDee a lot of strength and hope she will find some way of dealing with her feelings.
Obviously, DeeDee is hurting, but what she has said is absolutely not true. I have never coerced a woman into signing a consent to adoption -- nor would I.
In fact, in recent years with a change in Indiana Law (which I recommended to the Indiana Legislature), we give nearly every birth mother, who signs a consent to adoption, the opportunity to confirm her consent before a judge.
I always tell birth mothers that they have the absolute right not to sign a consent to adoption, but that if they choose to sign the consent, they will be held to that decision. I have walked away from more than one consent signing because a woman was not prepared to sign the consent. Additionally, over the years, I have had a number of women decide not to proceed with an adoption after the baby was born. That is their right. Those women do not receive an argument from me.
The success that my brother, Joel, and I have experienced largely derives from referrals which we receive from both birth mothers and adoptive parents. To have handled adoptions for as long as we have, almost 25 years, suggests that people believe that we are involved in ethical practices, delivered in a compassionate, caring manner.
I received a Congressional Angels in Adoption Award and special recognition from the Indiana General Assembly for my work in the field of adoption.
I am truly sorry that DeeDee is in so much pain, but I wish she would not have slandered me in searching for a way to ease her pain.
What does any of this have to do with what happened to DeeDee. I guess I don't understand your reply here. Is it true or is it not that only two days after giving birth - before the final consent was in the courts - did you or did you not refuse to return this poor woman's baby? Did you or did you not tell her that birthmom's never win in court to try and get their babies back? Did you tell her not to look on the web for the propoganda of adoption while she was pregnant?
These are serious claims and I for one would appreciate a forth-right, honest reply instead of the usual "smooth" talk that completely ignores everything this poor, suffering mom is going through.
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Evil, immoral, and criminal!
I am a mother who had her child stolen by adoption. I say stolen because 2 days after I was coerced by my parents to sign relinquishment papers, the court (and Kirsh and Kirsh) wanted me to give my final consent. I sobbed hysterically and said NO, that I wanted my baby back, why did they have to take MY baby, etc. Steve Kirsh quickly told me that I couldn't do anything and that I wouldn't win because no birthmother has EVER gotten her baby back. The adoptive parents took her anyway, even though they knew this and had only known about my baby for 2 weeks; I for 9 months. I don't know how Steve Kirsh and these adoptive parents can lay their heads down to sleep at night--what he and they did was absolutely CRIMINAL! This firm also advised me not to look up anything online about adoption before I surrendered my baby because it's all "propaganda." How very sorry I am that I listened to them--I bought into the lies that I was doing the right thing for my baby so that Kirsh and Kirsh could earn $35-40,000 for her adoption. The adoptive parents get my beautiful and happy baby and the Kirshes get a fat paycheck and I get to be sobbing on my bathroom floor, contemplating suicide because the pain they have inflicted on me is UNBEARABLE! Oh yes, I almost forgot something. They suggest to their clients (adoptive parents) that they stop sending updates (photos/letters) after 5 years of age because they feel that the mothers and fathers of the children should "move on." As if any parent should or could EVER move on from their own child.
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We’ve adopted two children via Kirsh & Kirsh and were astonished by DeeDee’s post. We experienced the whole adoption process as very professional but most importantly very caring. Not only for us but also for the birthmothers. The birthmother of our boy even rated K&K as excellent when asked how she was treated. We also could not relate to the story of pressing the birthmother. We ourselves experienced some birthmothers that decided to keep their children after birth. We talked with most of them after their decision and never heard a story of pressure to give their baby’s away.
We of course were very disappointed but also very glad that the story of K&K we heard as a loving, sensitive and caring agency K&K were true. Although the story of DeeDee is very heartbreaking we cannot relate it with our own experience.
We wish DeeDee a lot of strength and hope she will find some way of dealing with her feelings.
Regarding DeeDee's Comments
Obviously, DeeDee is hurting, but what she has said is absolutely not true. I have never coerced a woman into signing a consent to adoption -- nor would I.
In fact, in recent years with a change in Indiana Law (which I recommended to the Indiana Legislature), we give nearly every birth mother, who signs a consent to adoption, the opportunity to confirm her consent before a judge.
I always tell birth mothers that they have the absolute right not to sign a consent to adoption, but that if they choose to sign the consent, they will be held to that decision. I have walked away from more than one consent signing because a woman was not prepared to sign the consent. Additionally, over the years, I have had a number of women decide not to proceed with an adoption after the baby was born. That is their right. Those women do not receive an argument from me.
The success that my brother, Joel, and I have experienced largely derives from referrals which we receive from both birth mothers and adoptive parents. To have handled adoptions for as long as we have, almost 25 years, suggests that people believe that we are involved in ethical practices, delivered in a compassionate, caring manner.
I received a Congressional Angels in Adoption Award and special recognition from the Indiana General Assembly for my work in the field of adoption.
I am truly sorry that DeeDee is in so much pain, but I wish she would not have slandered me in searching for a way to ease her pain.
What does any of this have
What does any of this have to do with what happened to DeeDee. I guess I don't understand your reply here. Is it true or is it not that only two days after giving birth - before the final consent was in the courts - did you or did you not refuse to return this poor woman's baby? Did you or did you not tell her that birthmom's never win in court to try and get their babies back? Did you tell her not to look on the web for the propoganda of adoption while she was pregnant?
These are serious claims and I for one would appreciate a forth-right, honest reply instead of the usual "smooth" talk that completely ignores everything this poor, suffering mom is going through.