I would never ever wish these people on anyone EVER. Adoption is fraught with emotions for us PAP's and no one deserves to be threatened and bullied for wanting to be treated as adults. Sue constantly complaines about her work load, e-mail load and every other thing to make clients feel bad for wanting answeres to simple questions. She is paying herself over 300,000.00 dollars a year and her husband 150,000.00 a year and earning that kind of money should take more than the average work week. I urge anyone thinking about using them to research facts at the yahoo group Adoption_Agency_Research before paying one red cent.
That kind of money is not unheard of for an executive director, even in the non profit world.
I happen to know Sue works more than an average work week...I've spoken to her often in the evenings and on weekends. Her dedication to adoption has not come without a cost.
As long as CCI has come by this money honestly (and there's no reason to believe they haven't) they can pay their executive director as much as they want. The reason there is so much money to pay in salaries is probably because Sue has grown the agency and clientele.
I see nothing wrong with hard working, dedicated people making a good living. Her agency fee is comparable to other agencies, so they are no "ripping anyone off." Why do you care what she makes? Whether it's envy, or the false belief that people in more "human services" jobs shouldn't make good money, I don't know. But what Sue makes has nothing to do with anything, other than maybe the fact that she does a darn good job (or her business wouldn't be doing so exceptionally well that she actually CAN receive such compensation!)
CCI is incorporated as a NFP charity. As such, their income, revenues and other info is public information and PAPs do have a right to know how the agency is managed and where their fees are spent. Sue also has some LLC for profit corporations that can be found by searching www.sunbiz.org. You can also find a lawsuit where Sue was named a defendant. PAPs need to look for these kinds of red flags.
Fee structure isn't the only thing a PAP needs to consider. It is how the agency uses the fee and the quality of service they get for the fee. Other agencies charge less and provide superior service and they don't act like a matryr because they work overtime and complain about clients asking for what they pay for. Personally, I'd rather see a lower salary for the director and more money put into humanitarian aid to orphans.
It's not envy. It accountability and transparancy that is the issue. PAPs need to do this due diligence and avoid emotional rave references on the webas their only means to guide their decision in choosing an agency. Do independent research!
Why in the world would Sue tell you how much she and her husband make? That seems odd to me. You don't say whether or not she actually answered your questions or whether or not your adoption was completed. That might give people a better understanding of whether or not CCI lived up to their contract but may not have handled you the way you wanted to be handled emotionally.
I didn't write the post, but I can answer the person who responded (Why in the world would Sue). The reason they (and I and many others) know how much Sue and her dear husband makes is because they are considered a 501(c)(3) Public Charity so their financials are made public. They are required to file an IRS 990. Their 2002-2005 990's can be found on GuideStar.org. It'll be interesting to see the 2006 and 2007 990's when they become available as she is making a LOT more money now!
The 2005 990, page 5, part V-A: Sue Hedberg's compensation is $250,500; David Hedberg's compensation is $133,500 and the only other person on their board of directors that year was Teresa Brown. Her compensation was $15,862. Supposedly both David and Teresa work 40 hours a week. Why would their wages be so dramatically different?
Two other things to note:
1. If you go to page 6 of the 2005 990, part V-A, question 75b asks "are any officers, directors, trustees . . . . reated to each other through family or business relationships? She checked NO but clearly Sue and David Hedberg, the two highest paid board of directors, are husband and wife = related.
2. Sue gave herself a $40,000 + raise from 2004 to 2005. Nice.
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I would never ever wish these people on anyone EVER. Adoption is fraught with emotions for us PAP's and no one deserves to be threatened and bullied for wanting to be treated as adults. Sue constantly complaines about her work load, e-mail load and every other thing to make clients feel bad for wanting answeres to simple questions. She is paying herself over 300,000.00 dollars a year and her husband 150,000.00 a year and earning that kind of money should take more than the average work week. I urge anyone thinking about using them to research facts at the yahoo group Adoption_Agency_Research before paying one red cent.
Sue's income
That kind of money is not unheard of for an executive director, even in the non profit world.
I happen to know Sue works more than an average work week...I've spoken to her often in the evenings and on weekends. Her dedication to adoption has not come without a cost.
As long as CCI has come by this money honestly (and there's no reason to believe they haven't) they can pay their executive director as much as they want. The reason there is so much money to pay in salaries is probably because Sue has grown the agency and clientele.
I see nothing wrong with hard working, dedicated people making a good living. Her agency fee is comparable to other agencies, so they are no "ripping anyone off." Why do you care what she makes? Whether it's envy, or the false belief that people in more "human services" jobs shouldn't make good money, I don't know. But what Sue makes has nothing to do with anything, other than maybe the fact that she does a darn good job (or her business wouldn't be doing so exceptionally well that she actually CAN receive such compensation!)
missing the point, aren't you?
CCI is incorporated as a NFP charity. As such, their income, revenues and other info is public information and PAPs do have a right to know how the agency is managed and where their fees are spent. Sue also has some LLC for profit corporations that can be found by searching www.sunbiz.org. You can also find a lawsuit where Sue was named a defendant. PAPs need to look for these kinds of red flags.
Fee structure isn't the only thing a PAP needs to consider. It is how the agency uses the fee and the quality of service they get for the fee. Other agencies charge less and provide superior service and they don't act like a matryr because they work overtime and complain about clients asking for what they pay for. Personally, I'd rather see a lower salary for the director and more money put into humanitarian aid to orphans.
It's not envy. It accountability and transparancy that is the issue. PAPs need to do this due diligence and avoid emotional rave references on the webas their only means to guide their decision in choosing an agency. Do independent research!
Why in the world would Sue
Why in the world would Sue tell you how much she and her husband make? That seems odd to me. You don't say whether or not she actually answered your questions or whether or not your adoption was completed. That might give people a better understanding of whether or not CCI lived up to their contract but may not have handled you the way you wanted to be handled emotionally.
Good question!
I didn't write the post, but I can answer the person who responded (Why in the world would Sue). The reason they (and I and many others) know how much Sue and her dear husband makes is because they are considered a 501(c)(3) Public Charity so their financials are made public. They are required to file an IRS 990. Their 2002-2005 990's can be found on GuideStar.org. It'll be interesting to see the 2006 and 2007 990's when they become available as she is making a LOT more money now!
The 2005 990, page 5, part V-A: Sue Hedberg's compensation is $250,500; David Hedberg's compensation is $133,500 and the only other person on their board of directors that year was Teresa Brown. Her compensation was $15,862. Supposedly both David and Teresa work 40 hours a week. Why would their wages be so dramatically different?
Two other things to note:
1. If you go to page 6 of the 2005 990, part V-A, question 75b asks "are any officers, directors, trustees . . . . reated to each other through family or business relationships? She checked NO but clearly Sue and David Hedberg, the two highest paid board of directors, are husband and wife = related.
2. Sue gave herself a $40,000 + raise from 2004 to 2005. Nice.